BlackJack Rules (Condensed) Played with 5 standard decks. Cards are shuffled at the start of each game; Dealer must stand on all 17 and above. No re-splitting; One card on split aces. Cannot split unlike 10 value cards. Player auto-stands on 21. Split Ace with 10 value card hands count as 21 - does not qualify as BlackJack. Return to Player. Surrendering in Blackjack. Let’s face it, sometimes we are just having an off day, with bad hand after bad hand. And sometimes, surrendering is our best bet; an occasionally viable tactic in games of blackjack which allow the player to do so. Surrendering, as we explain in our glossary of blackjack terms, refers to the offer in some games styles of blackjack (mainly American versions) which allows players to forfeit their hand in the current round and get back half of their original wager. Blackjack surrender is beneficial and advantageous to players only if they know the instances that would call them to make this particular move. Read On; An Overview of Early Surrender in Blackjack. It is best that gamblers know when it is appropriate to make an early surrender in blackjack to avoid missing the chance of beating blackjack dealers. Blackjack Strategy. When the value of dealer's revealed card is 4,5 or 6, it may be fruitful to double your bet with an Ace and 4 in hand. You may want to surrender if you have 16 in your hand while the dealer has a 9,10 or A. You should always split if you have a pair of Aces.
MikeV
This happened to me back in 2013 when I was at the MGM Grand. I was playing blackjack and during my session, there were 2 instances where I elected to surrender, according to basic strategy. I used to appropriate hand signal in both cases. After the second time, the dealer said to me to just say the word 'surrender' and not use the hand signal since it almost looked like I wanted to hit.
I know that we are always told, on this site and elsewhere, to use hand signals when playing blackjack. I'm curious to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.
I know that we are always told, on this site and elsewhere, to use hand signals when playing blackjack. I'm curious to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.
Greasyjohn
Are you saying 'surrender' when giving the hand signal? When surrendering I've never heard of or witnessed the verbal surrender signal not given. The drawing of a six-inch line under your wager with your index finger is supportive of the verbal signal, and is mainly for the benefit of surveillance.
BleedingChipsSlowly
Where I play only a verbal 'surrender' is accepted, and dealers will tell you not to use the hand signal with the verbal one. They don't care how surrendering is handled anywhere else in the world.“You don’t bring a bone saw to a negotiation.” - Robert Jordan, former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia
RS
Usually, the dealer says to say surrender, because the signal looks like a hit signal, but then after saying surrender (verbally) to draw the line behind the wager for surveillance.
IE, 'proper procedure:
Verbally say 'surrender'
Dealer acknowledges you want to surrender
Do hand signal for surrender [for surveillance]
I wonder if a different hand signal could be made (I'm sure it could be) to introduce a new signal for surrender, one that is easy but doesn't look like the hit signal. Perhaps every BJ seat can come equipped with a French flag, that must be waved when surrendering.
IE, 'proper procedure:
Verbally say 'surrender'
Dealer acknowledges you want to surrender
Do hand signal for surrender [for surveillance]
I wonder if a different hand signal could be made (I'm sure it could be) to introduce a new signal for surrender, one that is easy but doesn't look like the hit signal. Perhaps every BJ seat can come equipped with a French flag, that must be waved when surrendering.
Wizard
Administrator
I always do both at the same time, saying 'surrender' quite loudly. Administrator
If you must do only one, then just say 'surrender.' I'm sure I've written somewhere that surveillance must be able to see what you want to do. That is in general true, but if you give the hand signal only, the dealer will likely interpret it as a hit and an argument will ensue if you bust.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
ams288
I find it all depends on the dealer.
I've been scolded for only using the hand signal and for only saying surrender. So I usually just ask which they'd prefer the first time I surrender..
(And if the dealer tells me surrender is a bad play - THEN I get really mad. That happens far too often.)
I've been scolded for only using the hand signal and for only saying surrender. So I usually just ask which they'd prefer the first time I surrender..
(And if the dealer tells me surrender is a bad play - THEN I get really mad. That happens far too often.)
DJTeddyBear
On a somewhat unrelated note, a couple years ago, one night during G2E week, several WoV members were sitting at FreeBet BJ with Geoff / Switch at Golden Nugget. It was either being field trialed or a really new install. (For those that don't know, Geoff invented FreeBet as well as BJ Switch. His WoV handle is Switch.)We asked Geoff what the hand signal was for the free bet. He hadn't come up with one. I think he thought that the verbal request, combined with the dealer placing the FreeBet token, was good enough. So rather than asking the dealer or floor, we came up with one ourselves: Do the King Kong chest pound thing. As if that wasn't enough, we added doing it while grunting like a gorilla.
Even though we were all having a good time, dealer included, for some reason it didn't catch on.
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Joeshlabotnik
I always do both at the same time, saying 'surrender' quite loudly.
If you must do only one, then just say 'surrender.' I'm sure I've written somewhere that surveillance must be able to see what you want to do. That is in general true, but if you give the hand signal only, the dealer will likely interpret it as a hit and an argument will ensue if you bust.
If you must do only one, then just say 'surrender.' I'm sure I've written somewhere that surveillance must be able to see what you want to do. That is in general true, but if you give the hand signal only, the dealer will likely interpret it as a hit and an argument will ensue if you bust.
No, no, no. You do the hand signal, but in an ambiguous manner. Then when the dealer gives you a card, you say nothing if it improves your hand, but if it busts you, you loudly proclaim that you gave the surrender, not the hit signal. Ideally, you have perfected your surrenderhit signal so that a reasonable person could interpret it either way.
And if you're worrying about getting thrown out, well, that won't happen if you only do it once, and anyway, consider how long it would take to get thrown out of every casino in the world. Hmm, maybe not all that long for every casino that offers surrender..
I think my moral purity is being corrupted by the Wizard's 'Are you a good person?' thread.
777
This happened to me back in 2013 when I was at the MGM Grand. I was playing blackjack and during my session, there were 2 instances where I elected to surrender, according to basic strategy. I used to appropriate hand signal in both cases. After the second time, the dealer said to me to just say the word 'surrender' and not use the hand signal since it almost looked like I wanted to hit.
I know that we are always told, on this site and elsewhere, to use hand signals when playing blackjack. Double zero roulette wheel. I'm curious to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.
I know that we are always told, on this site and elsewhere, to use hand signals when playing blackjack. Double zero roulette wheel. I'm curious to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.
The dealer's advise of using only verbal signal is wrong. Hand signal should used because it can visually verified by surveillance camera in case of dispute.
My advice is to use both verbal and hand signals.
Joeshlabotnik
Blackjack Surrender Strategy
The dealer's advise of using only verbal signal is wrong. Hand signal should used because it can visually verified by surveillance camera in case of dispute.
Demo chase com. My advice is to use both verbal and hand signals.
Demo chase com. My advice is to use both verbal and hand signals.
Blackjack Surrender Odds
I have a special hand AND verbal signal for when the dealer hits his 16 with a 5 and beats my 20, but so far, neither has been well received.Blackjack Surrender Hands
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